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captain paranoia:
Lyle,

It depends what you want to use the stove for, and what sort of stove you want...

Bushcrafty or super-ultralightweight?
Found, solid, pressure liquid, liquid or gas fuel?
What cooking are you going to do?
Where are you going to use it?
How are you going to carry it?

Yes, I'm a stove (amongst other things) nerd.  I've even won a design award for one of my stoves at the Outdoors Show at the NEC... (Alpkit CoLAB09).

Oh, and here are some of my DIY stove articles:

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/gear-features/the-squeezebox-files/5644.html
http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/gear-features/make-your-own-meths-burner/6227.html
http://zenstoves.net/PotStands-Conical.htm#ConeTemplates
http://zenstoves.net/PotStands-WindscreenStands.htm#Captain_Paranoias_Windscreen_PotStand_Tool

 :o

Lyle Brotherton:
Thanks guys, really helpful and CP your question, which is spot on, It depends what you want to use the stove for, and what sort of stove you want... answered thus:

Bushcrafty or super-ultralightweight?      
Super-ultralightweight

Found, solid, pressure liquid, liquid or gas fuel?   
Not fussed

What cooking are you going to do?
Boiling water only, either for a brew or pre-packed dried food; I never use anything else.

Where are you going to use it?
≤ 1200m -25C to +35C 

How are you going to carry it?
In my rucksack

captain paranoia:
Okay, more questions then...

How much water do you want to boil?
Will the fuel be available in the locales you wish to use it (international geographic)?
How bulky can you cope with?
How concerned are you about speed?
How long are the trips you will use it on?

For super-ultralight, I'd suggest a homemade meths burner and conic pan support windshield.  My setup weighs 8g for the burner and 25g for the pan support, and packs into the Alpkit MyTiMug I use to heat water/cook with.  It will boil 500ml of water in about 8 minutes (depending on ambient conditions), using between 12-15ml of UK-spec meths.

Oh, and one last question: how squaddie-proof does it need to be?  Light, strong, cheap: pick any two...

Lyle Brotherton:
Not often I have to correct you CP!

Nothing is squaddie proof. I remember a famous cookware firm providing a novel set of billy cans for testing, which, they claimed would survive even if strapped to The M18A1 Claymore. After only 4 weeks with squaddies, they leaked, the handles had long since disappeared and one was reminiscent of WWI shrapnel found in the fields of Flanders  ;)

How much water do you want to boil?
Max 500ml

Will the fuel be available in the locales you wish to use it (international geographic)?
Yes, Scotland

How bulky can you cope with?
I like small kit packs

How concerned are you about speed?
10 minutes or less

How long are the trips you will use it on?
Max 3 days/nights

captain paranoia:
> Nothing is squaddie proof.

I know.  That's why I asked...  ;)

All things are relative....  Some items might last five seconds, some might last five weeks.

When I was exhibiting the SqueezeBox Stove at the NEC, various types came and had a look, and, since it's made from folded aluminium foil, some pooh-poohed the idea as not being strong enough.  Which is entirely true, if the target audience was a bunch of squaddies in a combat zone.  But it wasn't; the target audience is ultralight backpackers who have the time to be careful with their kit, and know that it's fragile and cannot be kicked around the campsite, or run over by a Warrior.

Given your answers above, I'm even more convinced that a conic stove and drinks can burner would be right up your street, provided you could find somewhere sheltered to use them (they're so light they are in danger of blowing away).

Here's are a nice example by Ultra Magnus, using my template script:






Or my MyTiMug setup:





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