Grease pencils

[dave]

Any idea where to get grease pencils and done a couple of searches but nothing seems right?

Ta

Dave

[Lyle Brotherton]

Dave, there are loads of rubbish quality ones out there, bought mine in Germany.

Have emailed them to ask if I can distribute them here.

PM me your address I you can have one of mine. 

[Phil]

I use these, I think they came from a stationers in Whitby.

http://www.ryman.co.uk/0801112001/Staedtler-Lumocolor-Chinagraph-Omnichrom-Pencil-Non-Permanent/Product

Just noticed, Ryman only appear to have them in black.

Try this link for other colours

http://www.rvops.co.uk/chinagraph-pencil-red-1160.html

[dave]

Thanks for that Phil will have a look

Dave

[adi]

See my post here before you rush out and buy anything http://micronavigation.com/forum/general-navigational-kit/scribblings/

[Lyle Brotherton]

Adi,

My STAEDTLER Lumocolor Omnichrom and Permanent Lumocolor both arrived this morning so will try them out and keep you posted.

First thought is v important to keep them separate, or I could end up with permanent notes on my maps that I did not intend.

[adi]

Lyle I have used that combination for around 25 years and they work great. Damn that makes me feel old!

[Lyle Brotherton]

Got my first compass from my Uncle Micheal Marks, a military sighting compass, when I was 10 - 45 years ago! So if your old then I should be in a home

Wish I had kept it, is was one of those brass ones issued to officers.

[John-C]

I found some short "propelling" crayons in Staples a couple of weeks ago (look in Kids section, about £3 if I remember correctly)- they seem to work slightly better than their chinagraph pencils (not a soft & smudgy), are only slightly thicker, come in lots of colours & have the advantage of not getting too messy (assuming the plastic cover doesnt break!) - I've tried them on OS laminated & they wipe off OK the day after, but they were no good on Harvey 1:25000 (from a different thread, the 1:25000 appear to be on different material to their 1:40000  mine has a slightly rough surface, I'd guess to help the print) - I cant clean the marks without destroying the print.....NB I tested on the cover section!  (not tested in very cold conditions yet though, this may be the crayons downfall)

I have been using a small Sharpie Permenant marker (WH Smiths) on the laminated OS maps for some time & found the marks come off with toothpaste OK if you clean them within a day or so.  - be warned though - after a week it seems to get a lot harder to wipe off! The sharpies also have good clip tops with a nice loop for attaching to whatever   

Big problem with the sharpie perm is (appart from not coming off Harvey maps without destroying the print too!) - although great in the dry, they dont work in the wet....the crayons & Chinagraph seem mostly OK on wet maps so far.

...so I'm still looking for a good way to mark Harvey (1:25000) Maps without wrecking them when cleaning off, even a pencil seems a problem - ideas anyone?

[Phil]

...so I'm still looking for a good way to mark Harvey (1:25000) Maps without wrecking them when cleaning off, even a pencil seems a problem - ideas anyone?

I had the same problem last winter with my Harvey 1:25,000 - my solution was to cover it with Fablon.

[Egg]

Been trying out some of these in various colours.
Bought them from Cultpens, link below.
www.cultpens.com/acatalog/Staedtler-Lumocolor-Permanent-Glasochrom-Pencil.html
They mark my home made laminated maps ok even when they are wet.
A little bit smudgy if you rub the markings too much.
Clean off easily with a hard wiping or a quick spray of one of my perfume samples.

So far they are doing as good a job as my usual permanent markers with none of the draw backs like drying out, people "borrowing " them. Also much cheaper.
Overall pleased with them so far.